Simple group config, not working

[krupan]

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Expected Behaviour:

I have added an addlist that blocks youtube and assigned it to the kidputers group only. No default. (I want adds and youtube blocked for kid computers, but not for other computers)

I have added a client that is assigned the default and kidputers groups. I would expect youtube.com to be blocked for this client, and this client only.

Actual Behaviour:

youtube.com is not blocked (tested using host command). I did pihole restartdns reload-lists and clicked to Update Gravity in the web interface.

If I add default to the youtube blocking addlist's group assignment, youtube.com does get blocked (tested with host command).

Debug Token:

[jfb]

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[krupan]

Sorry, I wrote that whole question, then ran pihole -d, and got this:

Pi-hole debug options are disabled.

ArchLinux distribution of Pi-hole is not supported by official project and this debug report CAN NOT be uploaded to their debug team.
Follow instructions carefully on the project wiki page (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pi-hole) and please refer to AUR package web page for support and debugging (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/pi-hole-server).

I understand if my question needs to be removed because of my unsupported setup (pihole 5.1.1, lighttpd 1.4.55-1, php 7.4.8-2, archlinux). I was just hoping that I had a simple misunderstanding of the way groups are supposed to work and someone could help me understand.

[yubiuser]

@krupan

I have added an addlist that blocks youtube and assigned it to the kidputers group only. No default. (I want adds and youtube blocked for kid computers, but not for other computers)

I have added a client that is assigned the default and kidputers groups. I would expect youtube.com to be blocked for this client, and this client only.

In principle you've done it right.

[krupan]

Thanks for confirming that, @yubiuser. It seems like it shouldn't be any more complicated than that. So...why is it not working for me? Something weird about archlinux? I did have some weird pid file and database errors when I first got this working. Also, pihole -c shows incorrect information (wrong IP address, says FTL is offline).

Any tips on how to debug? Is my setup just totally borked? Would it be better to run pi-hole inside docker?

[yubiuser]

@krupan

Thanks for confirming that, @yubiuser. It seems like it shouldn't be any more complicated than that. So...why is it not working for me? Something weird about archlinux? I did have some weird pid file and database errors when I first got this working. Also, pihole -c shows incorrect information (wrong IP address, says FTL is offline).

Any tips on how to debug? Is my setup just totally borked? Would it be better to run pi-hole inside docker

Sorry, I don't use Arch and haven't used Docker yet.
Best would be to contact Arch support

Follow instructions carefully on the project wiki page (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pi-hole) and please refer to AUR package web page for support and debugging (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/pi-hole-server)

For pihole -c see

Pi-Hole 5.1 - pihole -c (bug)

If I put this in the wrong place, I apologize. Not certain how to submit a bug. I just updated to 5.1 and pihole -c shows FTL offline. I have looked at the code and the reason is the file /var/run/pihole-FTL.port is empty. If you populate the file with the correct informaton, then pihole -c will work echo 4711 > /var/run/pihole-FTL.port pihole -c

(Fixed in the next release)

[krupan]

UPDATE: I set up the official docker pi-hole on my archlinux box and the group setup I described above works as expected now. (I'm even using podman instead of docker).