Used to be able to login remotely to my PI running pihole by local IP address. After a recent pihole update, the browser now gives "403 Forbidden".
Is there an easy way to resolve this without removing updates?
Help much appreciated
Happened to me too, looks like format is changed, now its just ip/admin - so if your pihole is running on 192.168.1.15 then just type in 192.168.1.15/admin
Thanks for that it worked! I do not understand what the purpose of changing this would be. Historically the IP address alone was enough to take you to the admin page.
Described in the release notes:
https://pi-hole.net/blog/2023/01/22/pi-hole-web-v5-18-2-and-core-v5-15-1-released/#page-content
It wasn't.
In the past, browsing to `http://<ip.address>` had taken you to a redirection page 'Did you mean to go to the admin panel?'.
Only http://pi.hole has ever been automatically redirected to /admin, and still is.
What do you mean "it wasn't"
It had always worked on my system accessed by an IP address and yes the redirect page, which chrome remembered. Pihole was installed on my system years ago. A recent update some how broke this method of access.
Not everyone has the time to read your release notes. Make it user friendly - pop up's warning of the consequences for the average person during upgrades.
Perhaps pihole is not for me. I've given a few donations over time perhaps it's time to stop this and move on and give my support somewhere else. I'm not an "IT expert" like you people.
Every release encourages people to read the release notes. Every. Single. One.
I get that people don't always have time to read them (and I am among the guilty), but at least be mature enough to say "Whoops" when it's pointed out that what you missed was in the release notes.
The behavior of Pihole requiring /admin after an IP address didn't change; you yourself stated that Chrome made it possible for you to take a shortcut to typing it out. The fact remains that the /admin still had to be appended to the URL you began typing in order for this to get where you expected to be.
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When it comes down to it, Pi-hole is your networks DNS server. That's a service that is vital for you to use your network so you need to treat it that way. The release notes have very important information at the top so you see the information you need to see straight off. If you can't take 5 minutes a week/month to read the notes then you can expect to have things like this happen.
This is why we always tell people not to automate the update function.
I appreciate your donations to help the project but I can't say that it takes an "IT expert" to type /admin in addition to the IP address (or just use http://pi.hole).
People use their servers hosting Pi-hole for many things and this change allows them to use the webserver for whatever they want to. Automatically redirecting to /admin when a bare IP address was used for the URL prevented that from happening.
The increased complexity of trying to make popups happen isn't worth it. That would break the update flow and require people that read the release notes and understand the change to then also take an action, click a button, hit a key to dismiss the popup and continue with the update.
I understand if you feel you need to stop using Pi-hole over this but I have to say I find it a very odd hill to die on. I hope you're just frustrated and venting and will continue to use Pi-hole, only this time with the understanding that release notes are quick to read and will save you tons of time and stress and will keep Pi-hole running smoothly for you.
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That is the entire purpose of the release notes.
We provide them for the benefit of the users, not the Pi-hole developers.
If you don't read them, you get surprises like this.
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Hi Dan, thank you for your time. This is a very good explanation, I completely understand the reasons for not using a bare IP address. The fact it could used for accessing other services didn't occur to me.
Apologies for my frustration.
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