"First you put twice in the upstream DNS the local address. If Pi-hole is running on the Asus then twice 192.168.2.62."
why would I put the same DNS address twice in the upstream? if upstream #1 doesn't work (it doesn't) then my whole network fails and I get no internet connection. I have to put google DNS in the 2nd DNS server in order to get an outside connection, even though it does appear to be blocking things now. Hold on, let me disconnect my my VPN on my PC and test the phiole test page.
Seems to be working and blocking ads with my desktop (PIA VPN) app turned off, but that could be cached domains etc so I'll reboot and update.